2015-07-24theguardian.com

``Grillo constructed what he called a "Plan B" for Italy, which he said needed to heed the lessons of Greece so that it was ready "when the debtors come round"... Grillo said Italy had to use its enormous €2tn (£1.4bn) debt as leverage against Germany, implying that the potential global damage of an Italian default would stop Germany from "interfering" with Italy's "legitimate right" to convert its debt into another currency.''



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