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2011-09-06 — theregister.co.uk
In other words, it appear Sun reigns supreme: ``Climate models will have to be revised, confirms CERN in supporting literature (pdf): "[I]t is clear that the treatment of aerosol formation in climate models will need to be substantially revised, since all models assume that nucleation is caused by these vapours [sulphuric acid and ammonia] and water alone.''
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KevinNevada at 07:45 2011-09-07 said:You have to read the deeper background for anything from scientists. The briefing paper attached to the presser included this closing statement: "However,
it 
is
 premature 
to
 conclude
 that 
cosmic
 rays 
have 
a
 significant
influence
 on
 climate
 until 
the 
additional 
nucleating 
vapours
 have 
been
identified,
their
 ion 
enhancement 
measured, 
and 
the 
ultimate
 effects 
on 
clouds 
have
 been 
confirmed." I'm sure that the Denialists will be very excited over this news, but it really is too early to draw conclusions. They have discovered that an effect is more important than previously assumed. They have NOT discovered that the climate models are so flawed that we cannot predict anything with them. And they only studied some of the atmospheric vapors, not the real conditions in the actual atmosphere. And in other news this year, it seems that if anything, the climate models have under-predicted the warming effects. Permalinkadd a comment | go to forum thread Note: Comments may take a few minutes to show up on this page. If you go to the forum thread, however, you can see them immediately. |